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On 7/7/2008 9:59:39 AM, blackwidow wrote: well, it went good. he heard me out...the best that i could possible do. We actually met up again last night...without getting into too much detail, we are going to take things slow and see where they lead. in the mean time, i need to learn to become more vocal, more considerate, and a better listener.

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On 7/7/2008 9:59:39 AM, blackwidow wrote: in the mean time, i need to learn to become more vocal, more considerate, and a better listener.

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On 7/7/2008 10:23:46 AM, jessicarabbit- wrote: If he wants you to be more vocal, it sounds like he might actually care...... a miracle (for a guy to actually care).

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On 7/7/2008 10:23:46 AM, jessicarabbit- wrote: If he wants you to be more vocal, it sounds like he might actually care...... a miracle (for a guy to actually care).

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On 7/7/2008 10:28:25 AM, li sa wrote: i think that something we all need to continuously work at is communication... as women we tend to expect men to understand our needs and wants without us verbalizing it - then we are let down when they can't.

On 7/7/2008 10:18:32 AM, Big Daddy J wrote: Wow! Sounds like that went pretty well! So how was your weekend???

On 7/7/2008 10:23:46 AM, jessicarabbit- wrote: If he wants you to be more vocal, it sounds like he might actually care...... a miracle (for a guy to actually care).

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On 7/7/2008 10:32:17 AM, nyla princess wrote: Yeah in short bursts like commercials hahaha. Anything more than that it is just blah-blah-blah to them. They don't like all the emotional stuff or anything confrontational. But yes lay it all out, so that any surprise that come about are the only the good ones.

On 7/7/2008 10:25:39 AM, li sa wrote: do you feel better?

On 7/7/2008 10:26:01 AM, nyla princess wrote: Is that what he told you to become or you resolved within yourself that is what you are going to change?

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On 7/7/2008 10:34:18 AM, blackwidow wrote: lol- miracles do happen. i have a problem of opening up, i always have these stupid walls up, i tend to lie about the stupidest things cuz i'm afraid to be 100% honest. I've always been in the mentality that people are always gonna try to hurt me no matter what. Its a sad way to live my life, i need to make major changes., if i want to hold on to him.

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On 7/7/2008 10:34:42 AM, li sa wrote: lol true... we have to edit out a bit. sometimes i am better at it than others.

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On 7/7/2008 10:38:30 AM, nyla princess wrote: Yeah- get this Boytoy tells me that I should be sweeter. If I was any sweeter I'd be molasses -fcukness. I swear now I am supposed to be the one to blame. Wow, the audacity! So I was like how is midget sex going for you? HUh! I couldn't help myself. This boy wants to battle me. He has no idea what Pandora has in her box.

On 7/7/2008 10:28:25 AM, li sa wrote: i think that something we all need to continuously work at is communication... as women we tend to expect men to understand our needs and wants without us verbalizing it - then we are let down when they can't.

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On 7/7/2008 10:37:47 AM, blackwidow wrote: a little bit of both. He makes me see the faults i have, he doesn't do it on purpose, but when you meet someone that you admire so much, the way i do to him, it makes you open up your eyes and see the real you that everyone else sees.

On 7/7/2008 10:38:32 AM, li sa wrote: yep... but those are all good changes for you, with or without him and it helps you build a good foundation. once you get past all that, things happen in life and in relationships that are humbling, embarrassing, hurtful and humiliating... the one person you should be able to come to with ease, is your spouse hopefully. losing jobs, illnesses, deaths, making bad decisions - these things all happen but it's a great feeling to know there is someone on your side waiting to hug you and help you through it - but first you have to let them .

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On 7/7/2008 10:41:18 AM, li sa wrote: bah... you should just walk away. don't bother yourself with the pettiness or the blame. what's done there, is done.

On 7/7/2008 10:42:22 AM, nyla princess wrote: Just make sure you are on equal ground. No high pedestals for anyone. Admire but don't feed him too much of it. It's never too good to stroke a guy-- I mean-- ego. You're right take it slow because he is probably testing you. Rejection is very hard to bounce from especially when he was sweatin' ya.